Anyone seen the b!tchin that's going on over at TT between guys defending these 2 companies?? Is it just me or are a couple of dumba$$ members of the forums ruining relationships between these 2 companies building products for our trucks?

should I even care?

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So far as I can tell... the NCD kits are knockoff PRGs.

Greg no longer uses the studs... he was finding too many problems with them breaking when the spacers were removed from the truck.

You can usually find a used PRG kit for the price NCD is selling used.

I'd go to Greg any time based on the great customer service I've had.

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We should be thankful to be getting aftermarket support. WHo cares which kit is better! let it be personnel preference.. I have talked with both companies and I would give Greg all my business....

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some people are loyalists and others like to jump to the next best thing, or so they think. Greg has EARNED my loyalty with his products, his suspension wisdom and no-nonsense attitude towards the TITAN. did i mention his customer service? phenomenal!

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born 12/3, purchased 1/4 '04 Smoke SE KC PRG MT kit, CST spindles, PRG Spec'd SAWs 2.5" C/Os w/Eibachs, SAW Airbumps, CST carrier bearing, 37x12.5x17 Pro Comp Extreme All-Terrains, American Racing Mojave Teflons, HID low beams, Magnaflow custom exhaust, Injen CAI Filter, ID FRP prerunner fenders, front windshield tinted, Optima Yellow Top, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD w/ipod adapter connected to 80gb iPod, Sirius, HD radio tuner, Hertz 6.5" Components front, Boston 6.5" rear, Boston G1 10" subs, tech12 sub enclosure, Alpine amps, Eclipse BEC106 backup camera, TrueTrac, regeared from 2.94s to 4.11s, CTW TT prerunner fiberglass bedsides, Giant Motorsports under axle conversion kit w/64" deavers (21" rear travel) with Giant custom built rear bedcage and KING 3.0 bypass shocks...

VIDS!!! http://vimeo.com/groups/h00ligan/videos

Also, keep in mind there wouldn't be all this stuff out for the Titan if it wasn't for Greg driving the development. A good example is the DR coilovers for the Titan, which he helped with.

I remember reading a post way back that SAW couldn't get the valving right on theirs, and tried to talk him in to letting them borrow the Fox coilovers he used to modify for the standard height Titans ... told them no way or similar.

I'll only buy from PRG, if he has a similar product, and I know that he can valve a shock like few others.

let me add fuel to the fire then SDtitan!

did Pro Comp send NCD a brand new set of their 2nd Generation Titan coilovers? nope! they sent it to Greg and begged him to disassemble the assembly and assess why it was failing. look, there's always going to be a huge company with more advertising dollars and jackazzes for owners willing to sell their souls or thicken the skin on their knees. but greg ain't like that. he's really a humble guy, yeah prideful in his work, but not one to beg a magazine to stick his sh!t in a magazine. he isn't a kiss ass and i respect that in him. that and he's a small small company in a world of huge suspension companies. a world of suspension companies, many of which call on Greg for his suspension expertise. can't say the same for NCD.

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born 12/3, purchased 1/4 '04 Smoke SE KC PRG MT kit, CST spindles, PRG Spec'd SAWs 2.5" C/Os w/Eibachs, SAW Airbumps, CST carrier bearing, 37x12.5x17 Pro Comp Extreme All-Terrains, American Racing Mojave Teflons, HID low beams, Magnaflow custom exhaust, Injen CAI Filter, ID FRP prerunner fenders, front windshield tinted, Optima Yellow Top, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD w/ipod adapter connected to 80gb iPod, Sirius, HD radio tuner, Hertz 6.5" Components front, Boston 6.5" rear, Boston G1 10" subs, tech12 sub enclosure, Alpine amps, Eclipse BEC106 backup camera, TrueTrac, regeared from 2.94s to 4.11s, CTW TT prerunner fiberglass bedsides, Giant Motorsports under axle conversion kit w/64" deavers (21" rear travel) with Giant custom built rear bedcage and KING 3.0 bypass shocks...

VIDS!!! http://vimeo.com/groups/h00ligan/videos

I checked the thread out ... seemed tame to me. Just the typical request for NCD to actually show their kits airborne, and the equally typical ... no response from the NCD crowd.

in last month's issue of OFFROAD mag (my daily toilet lit) they did a story on the silver NCD titan with the cantilever long travel setup in the rear and all the other long travel bells and whistles in the front. good article and some pretty decent pics HOWEVER you see one pic of the mighty NCD titan about 3" off the ground. either terrible camera work or the steed of the stable isn't quite capable of launching to the extremes which Greg has launched his all in the sake of improving titan suspensions. i did however see the silver NCD titan and talk to Kyle the owner he told me of stories hucking his truck from a multitude of jumps and he was proud to say his NCD suspension performed flawlessly. but pics? seems like there are none...

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born 12/3, purchased 1/4 '04 Smoke SE KC PRG MT kit, CST spindles, PRG Spec'd SAWs 2.5" C/Os w/Eibachs, SAW Airbumps, CST carrier bearing, 37x12.5x17 Pro Comp Extreme All-Terrains, American Racing Mojave Teflons, HID low beams, Magnaflow custom exhaust, Injen CAI Filter, ID FRP prerunner fenders, front windshield tinted, Optima Yellow Top, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD w/ipod adapter connected to 80gb iPod, Sirius, HD radio tuner, Hertz 6.5" Components front, Boston 6.5" rear, Boston G1 10" subs, tech12 sub enclosure, Alpine amps, Eclipse BEC106 backup camera, TrueTrac, regeared from 2.94s to 4.11s, CTW TT prerunner fiberglass bedsides, Giant Motorsports under axle conversion kit w/64" deavers (21" rear travel) with Giant custom built rear bedcage and KING 3.0 bypass shocks...

VIDS!!! http://vimeo.com/groups/h00ligan/videos

One person said there are some on sand somewhere, but pointed out the stock suspension can handle the sand's forgiveness. I do recall a pic of a guy, (Jim Greer), jumping dunes stock at PRGproducts.com

ooooo, i think i remember it being the red one! that's the owner of NCD's titan. also, its not so forgiving as one would think. speaking to Greg once about that pic, he said Crazy Jim broke something (i forget what) in the suspension on that landing.

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born 12/3, purchased 1/4 '04 Smoke SE KC PRG MT kit, CST spindles, PRG Spec'd SAWs 2.5" C/Os w/Eibachs, SAW Airbumps, CST carrier bearing, 37x12.5x17 Pro Comp Extreme All-Terrains, American Racing Mojave Teflons, HID low beams, Magnaflow custom exhaust, Injen CAI Filter, ID FRP prerunner fenders, front windshield tinted, Optima Yellow Top, Pioneer AVH-4100DVD w/ipod adapter connected to 80gb iPod, Sirius, HD radio tuner, Hertz 6.5" Components front, Boston 6.5" rear, Boston G1 10" subs, tech12 sub enclosure, Alpine amps, Eclipse BEC106 backup camera, TrueTrac, regeared from 2.94s to 4.11s, CTW TT prerunner fiberglass bedsides, Giant Motorsports under axle conversion kit w/64" deavers (21" rear travel) with Giant custom built rear bedcage and KING 3.0 bypass shocks...

VIDS!!! http://vimeo.com/groups/h00ligan/videos